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[rispacooper]

Ever read a story for a fandom that isn't just bad (or just not good) but there's actually just something disturbing about the way in which it was written, yet you know you can't say anything without creating a shit storm of wank???


This is why I should only read the grown up fandoms, aka fandoms where most of the writers/readers are...not fourteen.

okay I hope she was fourteen.

Anyway.....

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[pir8fancier.livejournal.com]

I think you should say something. We had a kerfuffle in the early days of pirates fandom before it got all wanky and weird, where a high-school kid (really, she was 15) wrote this story about Eliabeth Swann being raped by Norrington on the ship going to Caribbean. Story was set pre-movie. So Elizabeth was, what, 12? And it was written as if Norrington had given her a lollipop. I guess you could say it was wish-fulfillment on nothing more than a fantasy level, but it was so clueless about rape, the rapist, which this might do to a 12-year-old girl in the 18th century... In short it was grossly irresposible. I lay no embargo on topics to write about, but it seems to me that certain topics demand that you treat them with respect, rape being one of them.

Fandom came down on her like at ton of bricks (although polite bricks), and I doubt she ever got it. She kept saying, "But it's just a story." And, of course, we kept bleating back, "Words matter!" In the end I think she pulled it because people kept beating her up, but I don't think she ever GOT it. But you know, it's like keeping silent about something that is racist or anti-Semetic. You just can't.

[rispacooper.livejournal.com]

Hmm well it's not a rape story...exactly.

Say, first of all, I have an issue with ass virgin stories. (Now, considering I mostly write first times, this sounds odd but I shall explain). Not normal bi-curious/hetero male slash world nerves about being penetrated. Those are normal feelings of anxiety. And I'm not talking about guys that usually top but will try being bottom for their man. I'm talking the "saving my ass for the man I love" weirdness. Sort of a butt hymen thing, and to lose it means you are a whore. (Heh butt-hymen). I'm really not down with that mentality about anybody or any particular orifice.

Second, let's talk about writing a character who's repressed and maybe a jerk sometimes, but not a total asshole. Even ignoring their out of character behavior in said bad story (oy, the character assasinations), even they were an original character and treated your friend, or let's say, you, like that, you'd think, total prick, not worth my time.

Third, the disturbing issue in this story in which guy depressed over losing the jerk guy, gets drunk (cuz you'd have to be drunk to want it) has whorish buttsex with this guy even though he's apparently waited his whole life for buttsex with the jerk guy, and then has awful Looking for Mr. Goodbar gets beat up experience with the one night stand the next morning---only to at least be grateful that jerk came in to save him---and then immediately ditched him again.

It was like a Harlequin from the 70's. Want the link?

[pir8fancier.livejournal.com]

See what you mean. It sounds like a 15-year old wrote it. Harluquin-ish but with butt sex. The requisite rejection and then debasement then saviour crap. No, I wouldn't say anything. There is no point. The one thing that stands out (and you could actually say something to her about this aspect of her piece) is that I knew it was CSI because of the names, but I had NO idea it was these characters because there was nothing in that piece that defined them as those characters. Like your CSI stories (having only seen the show on my way to the john and caught the television) is that I KNOW these characters by the end of the piece. I don't need to see the show to get the dynamic. What makes this utter wish fulfillment crap is the inherent ME in both characters. Ugh.

[rispacooper.livejournal.com]

Maybe she'll write a sequel where Greg (who is so clearly her...I mean...a girl...) will get pregnant and have ass-babies.

You know though, even in a 70's Harlequin the guys would have at least *a moment* of tenderness.


I ought to do one of those Harlequin AU challenges someday. It might be fun. Am also considering Yuletide this year. But hmmmm

linkee

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