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Dear Obama (you typical shady, lying politician),
Not holding anyone accountable for torture and then patting yourself on the back for ending it is a big bag of hypocritical bullshit. Using the excuse that those who tortured others were acting with the guidance and approval of the Justice Department is another steaming pile of crap. As the Right Honourable Stephen Colbert (and his team of writers) have pointed out, the idea that just following orders makes horrendous acts acceptable has not been allowed since the Nuremburg Trials.
And though many claims about those trials fairness have been made in the following years, one idea has emerged from them and remained over the years. That just following orders does not make it okay. That in a situation like that, *everyone* who allowed it to happen is accountable, but especially those that *gave the orders*.
In other words (even though not once did I ever vote for Bush or his friends) all of America is partly to blame and has to accept that. And if the average person must take part of the blame, than those who were in charge absolutely MUST be held accountable. Otherwise as a government and a country we can make no further claims to right, or to justice.
Anyone wishing to know what the hell I'm talking about: Obama's policy on accountability
Not holding anyone accountable for torture and then patting yourself on the back for ending it is a big bag of hypocritical bullshit. Using the excuse that those who tortured others were acting with the guidance and approval of the Justice Department is another steaming pile of crap. As the Right Honourable Stephen Colbert (and his team of writers) have pointed out, the idea that just following orders makes horrendous acts acceptable has not been allowed since the Nuremburg Trials.
And though many claims about those trials fairness have been made in the following years, one idea has emerged from them and remained over the years. That just following orders does not make it okay. That in a situation like that, *everyone* who allowed it to happen is accountable, but especially those that *gave the orders*.
In other words (even though not once did I ever vote for Bush or his friends) all of America is partly to blame and has to accept that. And if the average person must take part of the blame, than those who were in charge absolutely MUST be held accountable. Otherwise as a government and a country we can make no further claims to right, or to justice.
Anyone wishing to know what the hell I'm talking about: Obama's policy on accountability
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What the hell? Everyone's responsible for this on some level, and I really don't like them sliding out of it.
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Re: I hope I'm good, just not sure I'm any better.
Maybe they should have done what they did after the Aparthaid. They can "go free" but only if they take some level of responsibility and confess to everything.
Perhaps Obama feels like the culpability spreads so far and so wide that it's impossible to prosecute in a fair manner. I still think we'd only be hoking the smaller fish. Like we always do. Then people feel better and everything smells like a combination of shit and flowers. I should probably STFU and just let it settle before I say anything else about it. I'm still shocked that I'm even having this conversation about the U.S.
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Re: I hope I'm good, just not sure I'm any better.
The confess and go free solution sounds appealing. Cuz
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Because I don't want blood, but I want some Bushie to admit it was WRONG
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Re: I hope I'm good, just not sure I'm any better.
I typed AparthAid. <3
I wish that was possible, but it doesn't seem likely.