hmm question

[rispacooper]

I know how to unfriend people, not that I have, but how does one ungroup? As in, I wish to stay a member of Sparrington, but must leave certain other groups because if I even catch a glimpse of one more annoying het fangirl bitching about fics that are too graphic (grrrrrr my own little bete noir) and going on and on about Elizabeth fucking Swann in any sort of romantic relationship with anyone I am going to throw a bitch fit even bigger than the one I am throwing right now.

Seriously, y'all can't see me, but trust me. Just seeing a story labeled Sparrabeth (vomit) or...worse...Norrabeth (Norrabeth????? wtf???? Didn't both movies sort of make that obviously not going to happen. I mean I know fandom is all about the crazy and I know that OTPing (peeing heeeee) is a fun game of justifiying relationships that don't really exist, but what the fuck?) makes me wanna screeeeeeeam. ARGH!

If I could ever figure out what it is about het fangirls that makes me so angry, I might be a happier person. It isn't as though slash doesn't have bad writing and weirdness (mpreg, hello?) and it isn't as though I object to m/f relations (obviously not). Maybe it's just that the female characters suck. I dunno.

All I do know is that I reserve the right to be just as ignorant and intolerant of het as they are of slash.

But Wait, I have thought about it: And it occurs to me (after Pooky said it) that most het reflects the current state of gender relations in TV and film, and frankly...it's mostly disappointing. Studios manufacture these couples on shows...simply because there's a main character who's male and a main character who's female, and they snark a bit and act jealous and everyone goes awwwwww. They must be in wuv. But it's so expected and...well...boring. Why must everyone fall in love with the spunky chick? (I detest the term spunky, btw). Why not actually make her interesting? Slashers (for the most part, not the ones who just like the pretty) are looking for interesting and complicated and different.

It's like Lana on Smallville and her eternal aggravating hold on everyone on the show, and we're told to like her and she's pretty, so the easiest thing is for everyone to fall in love with her. Lex could fall in love with Martha Kent and it would be weird and fascinating and obviously screwed Mother-Fixation and I would still find that het more interesting. I would read that het, and I would comment and be in awe. Nicole Wallace and Detective Goren on L&O:CI are another good example. They are so Batman and Catwoman in love/lust but fucked up that they are fascinating to watch.

Maybe if someone could just explain to me what makes Elizabeth so wonderful of a character that the world needs to do her, or is it really just that she's the only girl there and women who want to screw Jack Dav or Johnny Depp have no other symbolic vehicle to do so that doesn't involve a penis? (and don't give me no Annamaria or Giselle, give me another female character along for the whole ride for offers something other than that crappy, irritating line about her damn corset, which is so blatantly tossing out a crumb to feminists that it grates...).

And I've had too much coffee.

Comments

[paraxdisepink.livejournal.com]

I wish I knew why het fangirls pissed me off so much too. But to leave a comm you go to the comm's info page, and at the very top where the link is to join a comm, you will see the link to leave the comm in the same paragraph. Click that, and then defriend the comm if it's on your flist the same as you would any other journal.

I have no patience whatsoever with people who are intolerant of slash.

[rispacooper.livejournal.com]

I don't know that they're intolerant of slash exactly, but they don't want the graphic slash (so I assume just cuddles and weepy puddles of girly men ukes or something, since reading about two hard cocks definitely makes it about two men).

I mean, I used to write het. So at what point did it just start to irritate the hell out of me to see it mentioned?

ah thank you. i will do that.

[pir8fancier.livejournal.com]

Because het writing is often just a Mary Sue? I can read decent het, there's not a whole lot out there, frankly. I do not see Elizabeth Swann as a potentially sexual character. Nothing about her is interesting. I don't hate her, but I fail to see how centering a fic around a spoiled, rich, white woman who really has NO interesting history beyond stealing a locket much to go on. I mean, I need a backstory. Even if that backstory isn't told, it needs to be there. Yes? And her backstory makes me yawn. The only person I can see writing about is Tia Dalma. Now HER backstory makes me drool.

The animosity against slash. Dunno. Upright moralistic jerks who are closet homophobes. I mean, I don't question their right to write het, which should they question my right to write boysex. I mean, we are ALL playing with characters that don't belong to us (except you when you write your original fiction). That someone can say to me, "My imagination is more valid than yours because I have heterosexual sex and that's canon." You know, "Fuck you." Because it's NOT canon. Canon is what the author wrote. Not you. Pass me the lube, please

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I have no wisdom for you concerning Elizabeth or the befuddling need every male in these movies has to fuck her - and in some sort of binding relationship, moreover. And I really can't say anything any better than you did and what I've already moaned and bitched about in my own journal since July 7.

[rispacooper.livejournal.com]

i wonder if there's just a lack of actual female writers on these shows/movies, or if there are, but they are struggling with the fact that they are only given one chick to work with?

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I think the situation in this instance is you have male writers who are enamoured with their lead actress to the point of plot blindness - they don't care that they've turned her into a Mary Sue (what else do you call a character who can literally commit cold-blooded murder and the men around her - including her victim - are still supposed to fall madly in love with her? That may be the best definition yet). I really feel like these movies are a big wank-fest for them hot over Keira Knightley, sometimes.